Spares News Number 14 - July 2008

Hi All,

                                         Poly Bushes

I have now fitted these items to the inner upper front wishbones on my TR3 and the difference is amazing, straight-line stability is VASTLY improved. If any of you have not carried out this upgrade then it should be done without delay, you will not be disappointed. There again thinking about it I am probably the last in the group to do the mod anyway!

                                         SALES

For those of you that don’t know Stewart Scott he has a TR4 that is extensively modified for sprints and hillclimbs. Lovely looking vehicle. As a result he has stripped out items that are not required for his application, these are in good order and have been removed only because of the mods that have been carried out to his TR.

Heater The matrix iscommon to 4A/5/6, external casing common to
            4/4A

Rear brake drums Common to 4A/5/6

Speedo Rev counter

Back plates for front discs

Fr and RR bumper irons Rear irons common to 4A/5/250, fronts
                                   specific to TR4.
TRIUMPH letter set

TR4 bonnet badge (after-market with slight damage)

Speedo cable (brand new)

              Stewart can be contacted via email
               at stewartscott474@btinternet.com

                                 WANTS

Does anyone have a serviceable scissor jack suitable for my 4? A jack from a 4A/5/6 would be fine. The one that came with it when I bought it is not correct and it takes up too much space in the boot! A turning handle is not necessary. If you have any thing lurking in you garage please me know at the usual email address. Keep the adverts coming!

Best wishes

Bob "The Bolt" Smith

Spares News Number 13 - June 2008

Hi All,

The circulation list seems to grow with every newsletter and that's good fr TR preservation but if you no longer want to receive my scribbles an email will remove your address from the circulation list.

I have been promised from a number of you lists of parts that you want to sell/give/throw away but as yet no lists. I am not going to name you individually but you know who you are!

Please let me have your lists and I will circulate them for the mutual benefit of everyone else.

Poly Bushes

First of all a large collective thank you to all information received re fitment of the above. I decided that it was time to replace the front upper inner wishbone rubbers and as the present rubber lot only lasted about 18 months decided to go the poly bush route. The version that I selected were from Autobush at http://www.autobush.com/. They have a special deal on the moment - a 30% discount and mine came post free so they were very competitively priced. Delivery was super quick ordered on line Saturday a.m. delivered Monday morning. Whether post-free applies to larger orders I don’t know. When fitting is complete I will report the difference in the high-speed vagueness that I have on the 3 at present.

Rear Brake Adjusters

I had to replace one of the rear brake adjusters on my 4 recently and that lead me to do a little research on the topic – sad or what!

These are common to the TRs fitted with Girling 9 x 1 ¾” brakes i.e. late TR3 all TR4/4A/5/250 & TR6. The part was fitted in addition to Standard Pennant, Triumph Herald, 1600 Vitesse, early Spitfire, Atlas van and in all probability lots of other non-Triumph vehicles.

The original TR4 part book quotes 120142 as the part number. The Moss catalogue gives the number as 120142 in their TR5/6 catalogue as 37H6134 but wrongly in the their TR2/3/4 catalogue. If you go the Rimmers brothers parts list they give the number as 519762!

So if you wondered where I am going with this, it all appears to be down to price for what would appear to the same part. I have summarised the prices as shown on the websites below.

Part No             Moss                        Abingdon Parts        Rimmers

120142        not available                £23.50              not available
37H6134     not available                £23.50              not available
37H6134Z       £10.95                       £9.40               not available
519762        not available                £23.50                 £17.50

(I take 37H6134Z to be a remanufactured Far Eastern part rather than an original item)

N.B. For those of us using the earlier Girling rear 10 x 2 ¼" brakes the adjusters are VERY VERY expensive. However if you need one I have spares so don’t buy from Moss/Rimmers/whoever but come to me.

Lets have the lists - do it now!

Best wishes

Bob Smith

Spares News Number 12 - April 2008

I see from Andy's last email that we have a number of new additions to the Lincs circulation list. For those new people my function is to act as a clearing house so that your surplus TR spares are found a new home. We all have parts that are surplus to our needs and if they can be passed on to another member for mutual benefit so much the better.

Please remember that by and large original serviceable old parts are usually better in quality that the modern "replacement" part. ( Editor's note: See me if you want to get your ears bent on this topic!)

Of course if you need parts no matter how trivial it might appear please let me know and I will circulate it to the others. Remember one person's junk is another's treasure trove!

For Sale

TR4 Remote servo, TR4 Rear brake drums (common to 4A/5/250& 6)
Reasonable offers are required.

Please contact Stewart Scott, Dunholme (01673 862457) or email stewartscott474@btinternet.com

Silicon Brake Fluid Labels

Do any of you use silicon brake fluid in place of the original specified fluid? Would you like a dedicated label and cable tie to attach it to the master cylinder so as to warn others not to mix fluids? Then apply to Malcolm Brown he has a number surplus to his requirements together with a cable tie for attachment and the best bit is they are Free, yes that's right no charge! so contact him at malcolm_sherry.trlincs@yahoo.co.uk to arrange a deal.

Interchangeability of parts

Malcolm Brown rang me recently to discuss his Brake master cylinder problem on his 4A . Basically his wasn't working ie totally shot. I knew that a master cylinder from a GT6 would fit a 4/4A they have the same bore (0.7in) so same pedal effort the only visible difference being the reservoir, which is usually made of plastic rather than cast aluminium. The other major difference is the price the 4/4A cylinder (part number 132909 / GR64067671) retails in the region of £90 whereas the GT6/Vitesse (part number GMC209) is some £20 CHEAPER. There are savings to be made if you have the appropriate information.

Early Clutches

This next part is addressed to all members with TR2/3/4 and the old type of clutch i.e. NOT of the diaphragm variety. Are you aware that a conversion to a diaphragm clutch is straightforward all that is needed is a clutch cover & plate from a Triumph Stag and the release bearing changing. Full details can be supplied to interested parties please contact me directly. (Ed's note: I have information concerning the Toyo replacement release bearing I can share with you if you want.)

There are many more instances of part interchangeability especially with electrical items.

LEDs

There is understandably a concern within the group and perhaps elsewhere about the level of illumination afforded by our exterior lighting especially the lighting that faces to the rear. Modern vehicles display a much larger area of illuminated area than do our classics so what to do? I have via Malcolm Brown found a source of LEDs that are a direct replacement for the existing bulbs. Crucially they also offer a resistor that ideally needs to be soldered or Scotch locked into the wiring. You need a resistor for the flasher circuits because our flashers units will not work without the correct resistive loading. I do not believe that a resistor is required for the rear lamps, ideally you also need a resistor for the stop lamp bulbs so that the brake light switch will continue to function over time. However though the brake switch will work without the resistors the flasher circuits WILL NOT.

I have asked the question about light output versus standard tungsten bulbs and I am assured that is approximately double the level of illumination compared to an ordinary bulb. I think that the LEDs with the 360Â° (Ed: this cryptic bit to be investigated!) light output are the most likely candidate for our needs, also they should I think that the LEDs should be clear rather than coloured so as not to compromise the illuminated colour of the lenses. The website is http://www.autobulbsdirect.co.uk/

Can I ask that you each look at the website and if there is sufficient firm commitment I am prepared to make a group approach with a view to a bulk purchase. It may be possible to negotiate a better price. Please let me know your thoughts.

Well I seem to have gone a bit this time but please remember all items required or not required please let me know, adverts will be forwarded within the group.

Best wishes

Bob Smith

Spares News 11 March 2008

For Sale

PI Fuel pumps

Graham still has two Lucas PI pumps that he wish to get sell, one is a recon (that cost him £200) and less than 1000 miles use, the other is well-used but runs. He is not asking a King's ransom for them and would not be insulted by a low offer.

Graham can be emailed at eastlound@btinternet.com

Fuel Tank

Paul Smith has the following desirable part that will eliminate your corrosion problems.......
Aluminium petrol tank for TR4/5/6 originally supplied by Revington TR, fully refurbished and tested to the highest standards. £200.

Further details from P.Smith Tel. 00 33 296 29 22 64 or E-mail paul.smith6@wanadoo.fr

Rear Suspension IRS

Your spares secretary has new 141464 which is the link assembly connecting rear damper and trailing arm (TR4A thru to TR6) parts are brand new old stock £10 each can be inspected at monthly meeting at East Barkwith by arrangement.

Something different

Our honourable Treasurer - Malcolm Brown has come across a source of LEDs that fit directly in place of the lower wattage incandesant bulbs the web address is www.ultraleds.co.uk

There appear to be some advantages; the lamp will be much brighter and they are available in different colours but as ever there is a potential problem. The current consumption is quite small so that replacing conventional bulbs with these items could give problems with the operating switches that power the lamps. I will not bore you the technicalities of this but trust me!

However they do have an obvious application if you want to put on additional lights on your TR (I run 3 Stop/Tail lamps on my 3 which overloads the brake light switch) The other potential application that I can think of is lighting for a trailer.

Anyway these LEDs are expensive but last a mega long time. It might be possible to obtain a volume discount if we all buy together. Can I ask that you each look at the site and decide if you are interested let me know and we can go from there.

Keep the adverts rolling in.

Best regards

Bob S


Last Updated: 18/08/2008 00:08:50	Spares News Number 14 - July 2008 Hi All, Poly Bushes I have now fitted these items to the inner upper front wishbones on my TR3 and the difference is amazing, straight-line stability is VASTLY improved. If any of you have not carried out this upgrade then it should be done without delay, you will not be disappointed. There again thinking about it I am probably the last in the group to do the mod anyway! SALES For those of you that don’t know Stewart Scott he has a TR4 that is extensively modified for sprints and hillclimbs. Lovely looking vehicle. As a result he has stripped out items that are not required for his application, these are in good order and have been removed only because of the mods that have been carried out to his TR. Heater The matrix iscommon to 4A/5/6, external casing common to 4/4A Rear brake drums Common to 4A/5/6 Speedo Rev counter Back plates for front discs Fr and RR bumper irons Rear irons common to 4A/5/250, fronts specific to TR4. TRIUMPH letter set TR4 bonnet badge (after-market with slight damage) Speedo cable (brand new) Stewart can be contacted via email at stewartscott474@btinternet.com WANTS Does anyone have a serviceable scissor jack suitable for my 4? A jack from a 4A/5/6 would be fine. The one that came with it when I bought it is not correct and it takes up too much space in the boot! A turning handle is not necessary. If you have any thing lurking in you garage please me know at the usual email address. Keep the adverts coming! Best wishes Bob "The Bolt" Smith Spares News Number 13 - June 2008 Hi All, The circulation list seems to grow with every newsletter and that's good fr TR preservation but if you no longer want to receive my scribbles an email will remove your address from the circulation list. I have been promised from a number of you lists of parts that you want to sell/give/throw away but as yet no lists. I am not going to name you individually but you know who you are! Please let me have your lists and I will circulate them for the mutual benefit of everyone else. Poly Bushes First of all a large collective thank you to all information received re fitment of the above. I decided that it was time to replace the front upper inner wishbone rubbers and as the present rubber lot only lasted about 18 months decided to go the poly bush route. The version that I selected were from Autobush at http://www.autobush.com/. They have a special deal on the moment - a 30% discount and mine came post free so they were very competitively priced. Delivery was super quick ordered on line Saturday a.m. delivered Monday morning. Whether post-free applies to larger orders I don’t know. When fitting is complete I will report the difference in the high-speed vagueness that I have on the 3 at present. Rear Brake Adjusters I had to replace one of the rear brake adjusters on my 4 recently and that lead me to do a little research on the topic – sad or what! These are common to the TRs fitted with Girling 9 x 1 ¾” brakes i.e. late TR3 all TR4/4A/5/250 & TR6. The part was fitted in addition to Standard Pennant, Triumph Herald, 1600 Vitesse, early Spitfire, Atlas van and in all probability lots of other non-Triumph vehicles. The original TR4 part book quotes 120142 as the part number. The Moss catalogue gives the number as 120142 in their TR5/6 catalogue as 37H6134 but wrongly in the their TR2/3/4 catalogue. If you go the Rimmers brothers parts list they give the number as 519762! So if you wondered where I am going with this, it all appears to be down to price for what would appear to the same part. I have summarised the prices as shown on the websites below. Part No Moss Abingdon Parts Rimmers 120142 not available £23.50 not available 37H6134 not available £23.50 not available 37H6134Z £10.95 £9.40 not available 519762 not available £23.50 £17.50 (I take 37H6134Z to be a remanufactured Far Eastern part rather than an original item) N.B. For those of us using the earlier Girling rear 10 x 2 ¼" brakes the adjusters are VERY VERY expensive. However if you need one I have spares so don’t buy from Moss/Rimmers/whoever but come to me. Lets have the lists - do it now! Best wishes Bob Smith Spares News Number 12 - April 2008 I see from Andy's last email that we have a number of new additions to the Lincs circulation list. For those new people my function is to act as a clearing house so that your surplus TR spares are found a new home. We all have parts that are surplus to our needs and if they can be passed on to another member for mutual benefit so much the better. Please remember that by and large original serviceable old parts are usually better in quality that the modern "replacement" part. ( Editor's note: See me if you want to get your ears bent on this topic!) Of course if you need parts no matter how trivial it might appear please let me know and I will circulate it to the others. Remember one person's junk is another's treasure trove! For Sale TR4 Remote servo, TR4 Rear brake drums (common to 4A/5/250& 6) Reasonable offers are required. Please contact Stewart Scott, Dunholme (01673 862457) or email stewartscott474@btinternet.com Silicon Brake Fluid Labels Do any of you use silicon brake fluid in place of the original specified fluid? Would you like a dedicated label and cable tie to attach it to the master cylinder so as to warn others not to mix fluids? Then apply to Malcolm Brown he has a number surplus to his requirements together with a cable tie for attachment and the best bit is they are Free, yes that's right no charge! so contact him at malcolm_sherry.trlincs@yahoo.co.uk to arrange a deal. Interchangeability of parts Malcolm Brown rang me recently to discuss his Brake master cylinder problem on his 4A . Basically his wasn't working ie totally shot. I knew that a master cylinder from a GT6 would fit a 4/4A they have the same bore (0.7in) so same pedal effort the only visible difference being the reservoir, which is usually made of plastic rather than cast aluminium. The other major difference is the price the 4/4A cylinder (part number 132909 / GR64067671) retails in the region of £90 whereas the GT6/Vitesse (part number GMC209) is some £20 CHEAPER. There are savings to be made if you have the appropriate information. Early Clutches This next part is addressed to all members with TR2/3/4 and the old type of clutch i.e. NOT of the diaphragm variety. Are you aware that a conversion to a diaphragm clutch is straightforward all that is needed is a clutch cover & plate from a Triumph Stag and the release bearing changing. Full details can be supplied to interested parties please contact me directly. (Ed's note: I have information concerning the Toyo replacement release bearing I can share with you if you want.) There are many more instances of part interchangeability especially with electrical items. LEDs There is understandably a concern within the group and perhaps elsewhere about the level of illumination afforded by our exterior lighting especially the lighting that faces to the rear. Modern vehicles display a much larger area of illuminated area than do our classics so what to do? I have via Malcolm Brown found a source of LEDs that are a direct replacement for the existing bulbs. Crucially they also offer a resistor that ideally needs to be soldered or Scotch locked into the wiring. You need a resistor for the flasher circuits because our flashers units will not work without the correct resistive loading. I do not believe that a resistor is required for the rear lamps, ideally you also need a resistor for the stop lamp bulbs so that the brake light switch will continue to function over time. However though the brake switch will work without the resistors the flasher circuits WILL NOT. I have asked the question about light output versus standard tungsten bulbs and I am assured that is approximately double the level of illumination compared to an ordinary bulb. I think that the LEDs with the 360Â° (Ed: this cryptic bit to be investigated!) light output are the most likely candidate for our needs, also they should I think that the LEDs should be clear rather than coloured so as not to compromise the illuminated colour of the lenses. The website is http://www.autobulbsdirect.co.uk/ Can I ask that you each look at the website and if there is sufficient firm commitment I am prepared to make a group approach with a view to a bulk purchase. It may be possible to negotiate a better price. Please let me know your thoughts. Well I seem to have gone a bit this time but please remember all items required or not required please let me know, adverts will be forwarded within the group. Best wishes Bob Smith Spares News 11 March 2008 For Sale PI Fuel pumps Graham still has two Lucas PI pumps that he wish to get sell, one is a recon (that cost him £200) and less than 1000 miles use, the other is well-used but runs. He is not asking a King's ransom for them and would not be insulted by a low offer. Graham can be emailed at eastlound@btinternet.com Fuel Tank Paul Smith has the following desirable part that will eliminate your corrosion problems....... Aluminium petrol tank for TR4/5/6 originally supplied by Revington TR, fully refurbished and tested to the highest standards. £200. Further details from P.Smith Tel. 00 33 296 29 22 64 or E-mail paul.smith6@wanadoo.fr Rear Suspension IRS Your spares secretary has new 141464 which is the link assembly connecting rear damper and trailing arm (TR4A thru to TR6) parts are brand new old stock £10 each can be inspected at monthly meeting at East Barkwith by arrangement. Something different Our honourable Treasurer - Malcolm Brown has come across a source of LEDs that fit directly in place of the lower wattage incandesant bulbs the web address is www.ultraleds.co.uk There appear to be some advantages; the lamp will be much brighter and they are available in different colours but as ever there is a potential problem. The current consumption is quite small so that replacing conventional bulbs with these items could give problems with the operating switches that power the lamps. I will not bore you the technicalities of this but trust me! However they do have an obvious application if you want to put on additional lights on your TR (I run 3 Stop/Tail lamps on my 3 which overloads the brake light switch) The other potential application that I can think of is lighting for a trailer. Anyway these LEDs are expensive but last a mega long time. It might be possible to obtain a volume discount if we all buy together. Can I ask that you each look at the site and decide if you are interested let me know and we can go from there. Keep the adverts rolling in. Best regards Bob S
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