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Spares News No 28 July 2010

Hi All,

No adverts again this time - where are they you lot? I have been promised emails from various persons with surplus items but they still have not appeared! If  they are too good to throw away and you don’t want them anymore let others in the group know.
 

Rear Number Plate Lamp TR4/4A/5/250.
 

This lamp is common to all of the above models and is mounted in the rear overider, the harness routing is down the inside of the overider, through the rear valance, up between the boot side and rear wing in the wet area, through a 1” diameter hole by the rear lamp then connecting to the rest of the vehicle harness behind the petrol tank millboard.
 

The overall length of the lamp assembly is in the order of 54 inches and the original S-T part numbers are 128881 & 133652.
 

The usual suppliers Moss & David Manners group specify 142002 as a direct replacement for the original S-T part. However this part is from a Spitfire and IT IS ONLY 30 INCHES IN LENGTH. This length means that any connection that you make will be in the wet area and bullets & snaps are not waterproof in any way.
 

Rimmers supply  the lamp under yet another part number. I have no knowledge of this but I guess that it will too short as well.
 

Remember if you need a replacement lamp don’t be fobbed off with a short version you are only storing up aggro for your self.
 

No prizes for guessing how I have come by this information!
 

Best Regards
 

Bob Smith

From your Secretary:

If you go to the Main Forum of the Register website you will see an item pinned to the top of the messages concerning remanufactured TR4/4A/5/250 light units. Not cheap, but when they're gone they're g......

A better investment than BP?

Regards

Andy K

Spares News August 2009

For Sale

I don't know if you are all aware but Rodney has parted with his 4A gone to a lucky person in Stoke on Trent.   He is clearing out his garage and has the following items that are no longer required. he is offering them to our local group first then on to ebay. 

New unused original 4A Jaeger Tacho and Speedo, stripped and cleaned by Speedograph. - £250 

New unused original DR3A s/speed self parking wiper motor, suitable 3/4/4A/5, tested and perfect - £125

New 4A Girling clutch master cylinder, - £50

Pair of 4A rear light assemblies, fair condition with average/poor chrome - £50

4A differential including mounting plates, bought as spare, told it runs fine, good crown wheel and pinion, but front seal leaking a bit, guess it would be best with all new seals and check of bearings - £100
 
Rodney intends to come to the August meeting but you can phone him on 01673 818514 or email, prior to this.

Bob "The Bolt" Smith

Spares News February 2009

Hi All,

Following my plea last time for all of your lists of surplus parts that are itching to go to a new home I have received only one response, which is shown below.

I can’t believe that no one else has no need to empty their hiding places or has need for any spares so the constant plea is LET ME HAVE YOUR NEEDS/WANTS & I WILL CIRCULATE THEM TO THE GROUP to everyone’s benefit.

 

Dave Mercer has sent me a list which is reproduced below.

 

"My name is Dave Mercer and I live just outside Lincoln at Welton.

I have rebuilt a 1963 TR4 and have the usual array of original parts left over. If any members want to contact me by email I may have the spares they are looking for. Parts include many bits that I have collected during the build from various sales:

Long neck radiator / cast exhaust / dynamo / engine parts /petrol tank / bumper / tonneaus / bead strips / grille / various trim inc. some leather / door fittings / window bits etc.

All parts will be reasonable, as I need the space!!!

Many Thanks

Dave Mercer."

Dave cab contacted by email at:
david@instagas.co.uk

 

 

Intechangeability of parts

 

On a different note this is directed to those of us with a solid rear axle i.e. TR2/3/4 – did you know that you can fit the later TR4A/5/6 front suspension to the earlier cars?

 

The whole assembly must be changed lower wishbones, bottom trunnions, vertical links, upper ball joints and top wishbones but as parts are more readily available for the later cars this is a further option to keep in mind. By changing the assemblies you also benefit from the 3-degree castor angle that will improve handling.

 

Well that’s it for this time

 

Best regards

 

Bob "The Bolt" Smith.

Spares News 20 - January 2009

Hi All,

Following the TR Lincs AGM I have again been appointed to look after the spares situation within the group.
 
I know that it is gloom and doom in the media about the financial situation and certainly things appear to be getting worse but what about your stock of surplus bits hiding in your loft/garage/under the stairs/under the bed/on the dining table or wherever? There are others within the group who could make use of your unwanted items if ONLY you would let them know!

Similarly there must be those who need items that they are buying new from Rimmers,TRGB et al. who could use a pre owned or new part available within the group that will do the job just as well at a lesser cost to the mutual benefit of all concerned. I am reminded of such T.V. programmes as "cash in the attic" where items are discovered that are worth money to be convinced that you all must have merchantable items for sale/exchange whatever.
 
So this is a rather long winded way of asking for your spares lists which I will circulate to all concerned -
I LOOK FORWARD TO A FULL INBOX ON MY COMPUTER
 
Best regards
 
Bob S

Spares News 19 - November 2008


Greetings all,

Where are all your lists? I would have thought that now was the time to clear your garage of all your unwanted bits but I have only one request from a TR Lincs member.........

 Dave McDonald  has the following request – can you help him out?

WANTED - TR6 or 5 or 250 chassis - in literally ANY condition. Rotten as hell and completely unsuitable to build a car on will do for what he wants . He can collect and clear it away for anyone. 

FOR SALE - TR4, 4A, 5, 250, 6 - Hardtop - Dynaplastics option as shown in photograph on a TR250, image 4, on page 39 of TR Action No 228, July 2008. Substantial thick plastic, not thin lightweight racing hardtop. Double skin, exterior finished in period look 60's/70's black vinyl affect grain with interior textured to appear as headlining.
Complete with: -  
         Glass (not perspex) rear window, not cracked, good visibility
         Fixings to attach to windscreen headrail.
         Bottom rubber seal on to rear decking
         Rubber seals around door openings
         Side brackets attached to fit hardtop to car just behind door B posts
         where convertible soft top is attached - NB: need link rods for these 
         brackets but I understand that Lenham hardtop fixings suffice as 
         available at Rimmers, Lincoln.

£40.00 o.v.n.o. Cheap as chips, just right for those cold winter days.
 
He can deliver within reason, depending on where to and if he can combine with something else in the area. Dave just needs the garage space.
Tel 01777 719754
Mob 07769 600348
 
Retford, Notts 


Best regards; Bob "The Bolt" Smith

Car For Sale

           FOR SALE BY LINCS GROUP MEMBER



TR3

1956 Red/Black interior with white piping. Heritage Certificate Ex USA car converted to RHD and fully rebuilt in 1991. Mods include:- R+P, alternator, front discs, w/ws, s/s exh, kenlowe + expansion tank, unleaded conversion, motolita s/w. Gearbox rebuilt to include O/d, poly bushes, sump guard and aircraft style harness all completed at TR Enterprises. £12,950 Tel: 07836 212021 for more info & Pics
 Rgds'
Greg Marsters

Tel: 01775 713755
Mob: 07836 212021
Email
: greg.marsters@btopenworld.com

Spares News 17 - October

Hi All,

Whilst on my travels the other day I came across a gentleman who has a number of classic cars including TRs. He has been busy renovating a TR4 and also a 4A and has ended up with a whole load of spares all primarily for the 4 cylinder cars. He has a complete rolling 4A chassis with suspension, brakes, driveshafts brakes new brake lines in copper and fuel lines together with a chassis that has been rebuilt and strengthened in all the right places. There is a 4A engine complete in running order together with a 4 engine which is minus the head but is still full of oil. He is looking for offers in the region of £1400; £700 and £250 respectively. His email address is clivestargate@aol.com and he is based in leafy Worcestershire not very far away from Malvern. Can I ask that if you have an interest in these items or approach him regarding anything else he might have that you mention my name since I promised to circulate his details amongst the Lincs Group.

All the best

Bob "The Bolt" Smith

Spares News Number 14 - July 2008

Hi All, 

                                         Poly Bushes 

I have now fitted these items to the inner upper front wishbones on my TR3 and the difference is amazing, straight-line stability is VASTLY improved.   If any of you have not carried out this upgrade then it should be done without delay, you will not be disappointed. There again thinking about it I am probably the last in the group to do the mod anyway!
 
                                         SALES 

  For those of you that don’t know Stewart Scott he has a TR4 that is extensively modified for sprints and hillclimbs. Lovely looking vehicle. As a result he has stripped out items that are not required for his application, these are in good order and have been removed only because of the mods that have been carried out to his TR. 

Heater  The matrix iscommon to 4A/5/6, external casing common to
            4/4A
 
Rear brake drums Common to 4A/5/6
 
Speedo Rev counter

Back plates for front discs

 Fr and RR bumper irons
  Rear irons common to 4A/5/250, fronts
                                   specific to TR4.  
TRIUMPH letter set

TR4 bonnet badge
(after-market with slight damage)
 
Speedo cable (brand new)
 
               Stewart can be contacted via email
               at stewartscott474@btinternet.com
 
                                 WANTS 

Does anyone have a serviceable scissor jack suitable for my 4? A jack from a 4A/5/6 would be fine. The one that came with it when I bought it is not correct and it takes up too much space in the boot! A turning handle is not necessary. If you have any thing lurking in you garage please me know at the usual email address.   Keep the adverts coming! 

Best wishes 

Bob "The Bolt" Smith

Spares News Number 13 - June 2008

 

Hi All,

 The circulation list seems to grow with every newsletter and that's good fr TR preservation but if you no longer want to receive my scribbles an email will remove your address from the circulation list.

I have been promised from a number of you lists of parts that you want to sell/give/throw away but as yet no lists. I am not going to name you individually but you know who you are!

Please let me have your lists and I will circulate them for the mutual benefit of everyone else.

 

Poly Bushes 

First of all a large collective thank you to all information received re fitment of the above. I decided that it was time to replace the front upper inner wishbone rubbers and as the present rubber lot only lasted about 18 months decided to go the poly bush route. The version that I selected were from Autobush at http://www.autobush.com/. They have a special deal on the moment - a 30% discount and mine came post free so they were very competitively priced. Delivery was super quick ordered on line Saturday a.m. delivered Monday morning. Whether post-free applies to larger orders I don’t know. When fitting is complete I will report the difference in the high-speed vagueness that I have on the 3 at present.

                                     Rear Brake Adjusters

I had to replace one of the rear brake adjusters on my 4 recently and that lead me to do a little research on the topic – sad or what!

These are common to the TRs fitted with Girling 9 x 1 ¾” brakes i.e. late TR3 all TR4/4A/5/250 & TR6. The part was fitted in addition to Standard Pennant, Triumph Herald, 1600 Vitesse, early Spitfire, Atlas van and in all probability lots of other non-Triumph vehicles.

 

The original TR4 part book quotes 120142 as the part number. The Moss catalogue gives the number as 120142 in their TR5/6 catalogue as 37H6134 but wrongly in the their TR2/3/4 catalogue. If you go the Rimmers brothers parts list they give the number as 519762!  

So if you wondered where I am going with this, it all appears to be down to price for what would appear to the same part. I have summarised the prices as shown on the websites below.

 Part No             Moss                        Abingdon Parts        Rimmers

120142        not available                £23.50              not available
37H6134     not available                £23.50              not available
37H6134Z       £10.95                       £9.40               not available
519762        not available                £23.50                 £17.50

(I take 37H6134Z to be a remanufactured Far Eastern part rather than an original item) 

N.B. For those of us using the earlier Girling rear 10 x 2 ¼" brakes the adjusters are VERY VERY expensive. However if you need one I have spares so don’t buy from Moss/Rimmers/whoever but come to me.  

Lets have the lists - do it now! 

Best wishes 

Bob Smith

 

Spares News Number 12 - April 2008

I see from Andy's last email that we have a number of new additions to the Lincs circulation list. For those new people my function is to act as a clearing house so that your surplus TR spares are found a new home. We all have parts that are surplus to our needs and if they can be passed on to another member for mutual benefit so much the better.

Please remember that by and large original serviceable old parts are usually better in quality that the modern "replacement" part. ( Editor's note: See me if you want to get your ears bent on this topic!)

Of course if you need parts no matter how trivial it might appear please let me know and I will circulate it to the others. Remember one person's junk is another's treasure trove!


 


For Sale

TR4 Remote servo, TR4 Rear brake drums (common to 4A/5/250& 6)
Reasonable offers are required.

Please contact Stewart Scott, Dunholme (01673 862457) or email stewartscott474@btinternet.com 

Silicon Brake Fluid Labels 

Do any of you use silicon brake fluid in place of the original specified fluid? Would you like a dedicated label and cable tie to attach it to the master cylinder so as to warn others not to mix fluids? Then apply to Malcolm Brown he has a number surplus to his requirements together with a cable tie for attachment and the best bit is they are Free, yes that's right no charge! so contact him at malcolm_sherry.trlincs@yahoo.co.uk 
  to arrange a deal.

Interchangeability of parts

Malcolm Brown rang me recently to discuss his Brake master cylinder problem on his 4A . Basically his wasn't working ie totally shot. I knew that a master cylinder from a GT6 would fit a 4/4A they have the same bore (0.7in) so same pedal effort the only visible difference being the reservoir, which is usually made of plastic rather than cast aluminium. The other major difference is the price the 4/4A cylinder (part number 132909 / GR64067671) retails in the region of £90 whereas the GT6/Vitesse (part number GMC209) is some £20 CHEAPER. There are savings to be made if you have the appropriate information.

Early Clutches

This next part is addressed to all members with TR2/3/4 and the old type of clutch i.e. NOT of the diaphragm variety. Are you aware that a conversion to a diaphragm clutch is straightforward all that is needed is a clutch cover & plate from a Triumph Stag and the release bearing changing. Full details can be supplied to interested parties please contact me directly. (Ed's note: I have information concerning the Toyo replacement release bearing I can share with you if you want.)

There are many more instances of part interchangeability especially with electrical items.

LEDs

There is understandably a concern within the group and perhaps elsewhere about the level of illumination afforded by our exterior lighting especially the lighting that faces to the rear. Modern vehicles display a much larger area of illuminated area than do our classics so what to do? I have via Malcolm Brown found a source of LEDs that are a direct replacement for the existing bulbs. Crucially they also offer a resistor that ideally needs to be soldered or Scotch locked into the wiring. You need a resistor for the flasher circuits because our flashers units will not work without the correct resistive loading. I do not believe that a resistor is required for the rear lamps, ideally you also need a resistor for the stop lamp bulbs so that the brake light switch will continue to function over time. However though the brake switch will work without the resistors the flasher circuits WILL NOT.

I have asked the question about light output versus standard tungsten bulbs and I am assured that is approximately double the level of illumination compared to an ordinary bulb. I think that the LEDs with the 360° (Ed: this cryptic bit to be investigated!) light output are the most likely candidate for our needs, also they should I think that the LEDs should be clear rather than coloured so as not to compromise the illuminated colour of the lenses. The website is http://www.autobulbsdirect.co.uk/

 
Can I ask that you each look at the website and if there is sufficient firm commitment I am prepared to make a group approach with a view to a bulk purchase. It may be possible to negotiate a better price. Please let me know your thoughts.

Well I seem to have gone a bit this time but please remember all items required or not required please let me know, adverts will be forwarded within the group.

Best wishes

Bob Smith

Spares News 11 March 2008




For Sale



PI Fuel pumps

Graham still has two Lucas PI pumps that he wish to get sell, one is a recon (that cost him £200) and less than 1000 miles use, the other is well-used but runs. He is not asking a King's ransom for them and would not be insulted by a low offer.

Graham can be emailed at eastlound@btinternet.com


Fuel Tank


Paul Smith has the following desirable part that will eliminate your corrosion problems.......
Aluminium petrol tank for TR4/5/6 originally supplied by Revington TR, fully refurbished and tested to the highest standards. £200.

 Further details from P.Smith Tel. 00 33 296 29 22 64 or E-mail paul.smith6@wanadoo.fr


Rear Suspension IRS


Your spares secretary has new 141464 which is the link assembly connecting rear damper and trailing arm (TR4A thru to TR6) parts are brand new old stock £10 each can be inspected at monthly meeting at East Barkwith by arrangement.


Something different


Our honourable Treasurer - Malcolm Brown has come across a source of LEDs that fit directly in place of the lower wattage incandesant bulbs the web address is www.ultraleds.co.uk

There appear to be some advantages; the lamp will be much brighter and they are available in different colours but as ever there is a potential problem. The current consumption is quite small so that replacing conventional bulbs with these items could give problems with the operating switches that power the lamps. I will not bore you the technicalities of this but trust me!

However they do have an obvious application if you want to put on additional lights on your TR (I run 3 Stop/Tail lamps on my 3 which overloads the brake light switch) The other potential application that I can think of is lighting for a trailer.

Anyway these LEDs are expensive but last a mega long time. It might be possible to obtain a volume discount if we all buy together. Can I ask that you each look at the site and decide if you are interested let me know and we can go from there.





Keep the adverts rolling in.

Best regards

Bob S